Location of the new protected lane.

Doing the rounds of AT’s website, we found this short but useful bit of new protected cycle lane coming for the Pt Chev community:

AT is proposing to install what looks like St Lukes-style separators on Carrington Road, on the southbound section from the Pt Chev town centre and across the motorway bridge, as far south as Sutherland Road (i.e. to the Northwestern Cycleway entry!).

Sadly, this quick fix project doesn’t extend any further down Carrington Rd, because the lanes get a lot narrower south of Sutherland Road and then swing out around parked cars outside Gladstone Primary.

Despite the obvious limitations, we think this is a good quick improvement – because while the painted cycle lane here has lots of space, it’s still not much fun when heavy vehicles and buses rumble past you. Also, we know a fair few cyclists currently choose the footpath over the bridge in order to feel safer – which isn’t much fun for pedestrians. (The path on the west side of the bridge is of course a designated shared path).

So, until later  – maybe when the new Unitec development helps brings proper protected bike lanes to more of Carrington Road? – we think this is a great little improvement of the type we want to see more of. Take all those opportunities you can get, AT!

If you like it, please give feedback here before August 24th.

The new southbound protected lane.
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  • Ed

    looks good! i guess that means someone has deemed the st lukes rd experiment a good one? i use that a couple of times a week and the number of broken and damaged posts indicate the ongoing need for them – some drivers clearly still fail the test of being able to stick to a lane.

    does anyone at bikeakl or auckland transport know when the carrington road cross near sutherland road will be upgraded to be more visible and safer – and marked as legal for bikes (as opposed to ‘cyclists dismount’ signs being there)? with the impending opening of the entire waterview path that crossing will only get busier, and with the current diminishing of traffic because of the tunnels, it feels like cars are driving even faster on carrington than usual. it’s a scary road to cross or be on anyway, but seems worse now……

    • Vinny

      the “cyclists dismount” signs have now been removed- happened a couple of weeks back.

      • Dane Lowe

        Funny thing is, I had used that crossing for years before I had noticed the signs – while driving. It’s almost as if they were placed there to give motorists an excuse, rather than to warn cyclists.

    • Max

      I’ll ask about the formal status of that proposal at our meeting with AT next week. Sadly it has been delayed a few times already.

    • Dane Lowe

      I must admit, I like to follow other cyclists over the Carrington rd crossing rather than go it alone. Too many close calls.

      • FletcherB

        My rule of thumb is… If your are first in the bunch, or sole cyclist… dismount and walk… It gives the driver’s time to see and process what you are… If someone else is ahead of you, and has already dismounted and given the driver(s) time to see and process in their head… stay on the bike and roll across…. If the cars are still moving.. slow/stop and give them a chance to give-way… if they are already stopped- no point in taking more time and slowing them for longer than necessary… and on the odd occasion when it is clear that they have seen you, slowed, and then chosen to proceed anyway… feel free to shout abuse, insult, kick the car door, or whatever else takes your fancy…. 😀

        • Vinny

          I actually indicate I am turning onto the crossing- always work, catches the eye of the driver and shows my intent to cross rather than stay riding on the footpath.

        • John

          I personally don’t use the crossing. It isn’t sign posted as part of the cycle way and I’ve always turned on/off Carrington with general traffic.

          • John

            I don’t have anyway to avoid the st lukes Pedestrian crossings though.
            So there I signal, wait for the car to stop while slowly balancing, unclip if necessary (very rare), and cycle across once they’ve stopped.
            Never cross in front of a moving vehicle.
            Was still hit once when going through a traffic queue and someone not paying attention hit my rear wheel from a stationary start.

  • David

    This short stretch of Carrington Rd has a lot of broken glass on it, which is one reason why many use the footpath. To use it is to risk getting a puncture.

  • John

    If you are coming from Pt Chev onto the cycle way west, the barriers need a gap further back from where they are in the design.
    They appear to be encouraging a blind 90 degree turn across the two traffic lanes.
    Without the barriers I would normally signal, merge into the first lane well in advance, then either pick a rolling gap in the opposing lane or wait on the centre line for a gap.
    Otherwise great to see these simple improvements starting to hapen.

    • Max

      Thanks – I’ll look at that when I do BikeAKLs formal input. Please do provide comments yourself to AT.

  • Jessica Rose

    I want to see what those separators look like.

    • TLD

      As suggested in the post it looks like they’re going with the same as have been used on St Lukes Road (https://www.bikeauckland.org.nz/beefed-buffers-new-protection-bike-lanes/).

      In my opinion these are ugly, overkill, and they feed the bike-lash. Quick-fix safety infrastructure can be ugly, but it doesn’t need to be this bad! I’ve said as much in my feedback, suggesting they scale back the # of vertical reflective posts, and/or use different vertical separation.

      Between this and the temporary street buffers for the double-decker buses on K road – AT are making our city look like a high risk factory floor

      • Max

        Most factory floors are arguably a lot safer than Auckland’s roads are for pedestrians and cyclists! That said, we hear the comments, and are likely to make similar remarks to AT ourselves.